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October 3, 2008

Biden Cool – Palin Rehearsed

Filed under: Biden,Daily Observations,Palin,politics,Uncategorized — Julie P @ 12:08 pm
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I watched the vice presidential debate last night. First I would like to say that the moderator did an excellent job with moderating the debate. She was not in the least bit biased toward either candidate.

Overall I thought Joe Biden did an excellent job in the debate he was cool and relaxed. Sarah Palin did perform much better than she had in recent interviews where she had come across as a bimbo; however, it was self evident that she was going off a checklist, which was a turn off.

The part of the debate that was the best when Biden took parenthood away from Sarah Palin who has been acting as though, given her background, is the only person of the four candidates who knows anything about parenting with its trials and tribulations something I have always found pious and smug.

Palin:

But it wasn’t just that experience tapped into, it was my connection to the heartland of America. Being a mom, one very concerned about a son in the war, about a special needs child, about kids heading off to college, how are we going to pay those tuition bills? About times and Todd and our marriage in our past where we didn’t have health insurance and we know what other Americans are going through as they sit around the kitchen table and try to figure out how are they going to pay out-of-pocket for health care? We’ve been there also so that connection was important.

Biden:

Look, I understand what it’s like to be a single parent. When my wife and daughter died and my two sons were gravely injured, I understand what it’s like as a parent to wonder what it’s like if your kid’s going to make it.

I understand what it’s like to sit around the kitchen table with a father who says, “I’ve got to leave, champ, because there’s no jobs here. I got to head down to Wilmington. And when we get enough money, honey, we’ll bring you down.”

I understand what it’s like. I’m much better off than almost all Americans now. I get a good salary with the United States Senate. I live in a beautiful house that’s my total investment that I have. So I — I am much better off now.

But the notion that somehow, because I’m a man, I don’t know what it’s like to raise two kids alone, I don’t know what it’s like to have a child you’re not sure is going to — is going to make it — I understand.

One other thing about Palin I did not care for during the debate is her propensity to mangle the English language. Folksy may go over well in Alaska, but it does not go over in the lower 48, and, frankly, will not go over well in the international arena. She is running for vice president of the United States, not president of the PTA.

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  1. […] Overall I thought Joe Biden did an excellent job in the debate he was cool and relaxed. Sarah Palin did perform much better than she had in recent interviews where she had come across as a bimbo; however, it was self evident that she …[Continue Reading] […]

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  2. Very good points. I found it interesting that many reporters said she did a good job, or even “won”, because she didn’t stumble like she had in past interviews. What an insult. Her answers (if you want to call them that) were canned and hallow. They lacked substance and any forethought of her own. I could have spoken as general as she did last night….does that make me ready to be VP? Just b/c she memorized her talking points doesn’t make her qualified to be the VP of the USA! And for goodness sake – – can we lose the cutesy tones and remarks; is she trying out for a school play or trying to win votes! I found many of her comments condescenting.

    Comment by Sue — October 3, 2008 @ 1:15 pm

  3. Well put Julie. I will have to disagree with you on the moderator. She did not hold Palin to answering her questions. She allowed her to go off on her tangents, particularly on Energy because that’s one subject she’s comfortable with. When asked about her achilles heel, she went off on why McCain and she would make a great ticket. Great, the lady can memorize some pat answers and clever lines, but saying she is less than qualified to be VP much less President is an understatement. When Biden made his Chapter 13 comment, she had that “deer in the headlight” look and jumped back on to her familiar Energy topic without even going there. I felt that Biden sincerely knew the topics well. I do feel he is prepared for VP and God forbid for President were it to become necessary. People have been so focused on Palin not being a bimbo, that they may overlook how well Biden displayed self-control.

    Comment by Earl — October 3, 2008 @ 1:16 pm

  4. I found also that Palin’s answers were rehearsed and she never answered the questions. The most annoying them I found out about Palin is when she is under pressure she gives the cute smile and acts like a little girl. If she is going to run with the big dogs she needs to be better educated on the issues, I was offended she would think that women can relate to her by her family. For years we have tried to be treated like equals and she is putting us back 10 years with the little girl act. I believe Biden knows more and would do a better job. (At least he knows what the job is)can not say the same for Palin

    Comment by Patty — October 3, 2008 @ 1:36 pm

  5. it was hard for biden to be relaxed when he had so much BOTOX in his forehead! he looked odd – it wasn’t a very good job.

    Comment by g — October 3, 2008 @ 1:38 pm

  6. As a Canadian who is interested in the foreign and domestic policies of the U.S.A. I watched the debate with no political preferences for either party. I am not a Democrat nor am I a Republican. The one thing that I am is concerned for the future of our planet and the people who live on it. I saw Mr. Bidden last night as clearly the very best canidate for VP. He obviosuly was well prepared and new the facts – Mrs. Palin however appeared to repeat lines and in some cases did not answer the questions put to her by the moderator. At times she sound more like John Wayne ..”well shucks”…cute and folksy….but not Presidential or Vice-Presidential material. I think I would prefer Bidden at the helm rather than Palin. Hope you folks don’t mind a Canadian giving his opinion. But waht happens in the USA does effect the rest of the world. And heaven knows the word needs leadership now more then ever!

    Comment by John — October 3, 2008 @ 1:39 pm

  7. These were not her words but the words of the McCain campagin. You could see her constantly looking down to get her information. While watching all I could think of is Sarah meeting with heads of different countries to discuss a specific issue and her saying I don’t care if you like it or not I’m gonna talk about something else instead. Plus what was her baby doing there is she using him to further her career. We know she has a child with Down Syndrome she doesn’t need to keep bringing him to these places. Especially since children with DS have a lot of health issues.

    Comment by lara — October 3, 2008 @ 2:14 pm

  8. I totally agree. I think John McCain has been kicking himself lately in regards to his choice for a running mate in Sara Palin. If she’s a pitbull with lipstick, then Joe Biden is the Dog Catcher. Her knowledge on international affairs is extremely limited, She rarely answers a question with a direct answer. the reason for that is because she really doesn’t know the answer to a lot of the questions. She does a good job of dancing around the issues that she’s clueless about. If she became the President of the United States, it would be like me becoming the president and ceo of Exxon Mobile. And I don’t anything about engineering. I like her personality, but unfortunately it’s obvious. She’s in way over her head. This level of politics is too advanced for her.

    Comment by Greer — October 3, 2008 @ 2:23 pm

  9. Oh yes, you have hit it on the head in your blog! Did no one else watch the same debate? How anyone can say that Biden only won with 51% is crazy! We cannot measure Palin’s performance (and I say that, because it is apparent that she is a rehearsed act) by her past performances only, and then give her a cookie for being better than her Katie Couric interview. This lady doesn’t know hardly any of the serious topics of government that are dealt with on a daily basis. If voted our VP, our country will certainly be worse off. Especially if she ended up our president. She would be ‘a puppet’, saying what was spoon fed to her. If we look at her background we can see that. She was a sports caster on TV, and a pageant contestant. She knows scripted material! On most issues, she did not clearly answer the questions. Biden clearly knew the facts on a variety of different subjects, even what the role of a vice president should be, based on the constitution. When he began talking about Israel, it was obvious that Palin was lost on the details. Did no one see how she would take facts from Biden after his answer. I’m positive that if she had gone first on answering these topics, that she would not have had the same answers or substance, and we would be hearing is a “I’ll just have to get back to you on that!” She did however, give Tina Fey, some very good material to work with. I personally am ashamed that she is even a candidate for VP. As a woman, and an educated individual, hearing her speak makes me think I’m watching a Redneck comedy special. There certainly is a place and time for her cutesy catchphrase lingo, but as VP there is no place for that. She should be refined! I mean seriously, there was no better choice for McCain than Palin??? Are you kidding me? Even Hillary Clinton is in a different league than Palin. In the end, I hope people are not fooled into feeling like they can relate to Palin. Biden is a clear, strong, informed VP candidate, and along side Obama, would be a strong, balanced team in the oval office. McCain and Palin bring “more of the same and little change”. The “Maverick” and his puppet-Palin. Palin go back to Alaska and raise your five kids, you’ve got nothing on my grandmother who raised 8 kids. My grandmother knows more about politics than you!

    Comment by Amanda — October 3, 2008 @ 2:34 pm

  10. I’m not sure which debate some of the political analysts were watching but, the one I saw did not give me a better impression of Palin. I consider myself to be a fair person and give credit where it’s due. In saying that, Palin did do better then she has in pass interviews. However, it was obvious that she was rehearse. Especially when it came to foreign policy. The only topic she seem to be comfortable and confident with weas Energy. There were times when she did have that ‘dear in the headlights look’. I felt thet the majority of her answers where very scripted. If fact, it appear that she was reading from a script. I also agree with Patty and John, she need to stop with the juvenille language. It’s very annoying. As for Biden, I felt his responses were very clear and concise.

    Comment by Deann — October 3, 2008 @ 3:21 pm

  11. It is refreshing to read all these comments. I was shocked the press was so kind to her. I agree with all of you…I did not appreciate the folksie talk, the “I’m one of you” attitude, rude, condescending, dodge the questions performance. You all are right–she is such an embarrassment! Please Canada and other friends-do NOT think we Americans are so ignorant as to think that lady has the qualities and competence to lead this nation. We are panicked here.

    Comment by Marla — October 3, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

  12. This woman (Palin) scares me. To think that she could possibly be our president one day and lead our country – what has happened to our country and it’s people?? Are Republicans so loyal to their party that they put on blinders and not see that this woman has no business being in a position to lead? I agree with everyone’s comments about her “folksy” demeanor. Apparently she feels that she can win people over by demonstrating this and feels it’s “cute” – I don’t. I now call it her “Tina Fey” mode. The transition she made while speaking, from cutsey to the serious “Stepford” woman was very shocking to watch. She would only talk to Gwen or Joe Biden face to face in her cutsey mode, often losing her train of thought, then suddenly transition into the Stepford mode, stare straight at the camera and recite an obviously scripted, memorized collection of sentences that seem to run on forever to the point that they almost made no sense. Her script allowed her to carefully avoid answers that she did not have. Get real, people, she is NOT VP material! Joe Biden is ready, he is knowledgeable, confident and will be a huge asset to Barack Obama in leading our country out of the mess from the last 8 years.

    Comment by Doris — October 3, 2008 @ 4:29 pm

  13. I think the press HAD to be nice or otherwise lose credibility. Cutesy and folksy don’t cut it with me either. As a naturalized citizen from Canada myself, the politics are no were near the same as they were when I first moved here. I remember back when Jimmy Carter warned us of all of this and no one listened to him then. Now this country is in serious “shite” and desparately attempting on digging out of it with this bogus Wall Street bail out, which BOTH parties are in favor of… The only thing leaning me towards the Democrates is the promise to end the BS war and focus on the real problems. If I have a passion and an axe to grind, you loose a third of your investments and 1/2 your homes value and tell me that either party is worthy of your (or my) vote… DRILL BABY DRILL…..

    Comment by Pumbaa — October 3, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

  14. Did anyone notice beside calling the general “McClellan” that she pronouces “nuclear” that same way George Bush does?

    Comment by Doris — October 3, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

  15. Sarah seems like a nice lady, she’s attractive, and I think she means well. But this woman is running for Vice President of the United States!! To me she’d qualify to be a light-weight manager in any medium sized corporation. How did she get to be governor of Alaska? Who was she running against? Paris Hilton? It is absolutely ridiculous that this is the best McCain could come up with for his running mate. Finally, why is that Republicans have such a tough time saying the word “nuclear?” They talk about how terrible it would be if terrorists were to acquire nuclear weapons, and they’re right. But why can’t they pronounce the word if it’s so “gosh-darned” important?

    Comment by Gary Wing — October 3, 2008 @ 5:05 pm

  16. I voted on CNN to give Biden an “F” because he was not cool and relaxed. However, the CNN site said I gave him an “A”. So CNN is changing the grades to make Biden look better than Palin. What a cheap trick for votes. He was jumpy and angery on everything that was said. He could not beat out a person who has 5 weeks of traing vs. his 35 years of service. Now that is just SAD.

    Comment by Rep-alltheway — October 3, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

  17. I enjoyed the debate and agree that Biden is much more of an intelligent speaker and presents himself as the “stereotypical” Vice President that we expect to have in office. That is what makes Palin exciting. She isn’t the “stereotypical” VP that you would expect. I think she is very knowledgable of all political views but speaks on a level that many can relate to and understand. She isn’t “trying too hard” to look like a typical politician and that is what draws me to her.

    No matter what happens on November 4th we will most likely be no better off than we are now. Politics are a joke. We sit here every 4 years and listen to the B.S. that these candidates throw out just so you will vote for them. Very few things they promise happen. It is all a joke!!!

    Comment by Dustin — October 3, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

  18. It’s not exactly news that Palin rehearsed for the whole debate in Sedona, Arizona. Biden was clearly more relaxed and actually knew everything he was saying. That’s why Biden was getting upset up there with her, because she was spewing nonsense, and he kept saying that “it was absolutely FALSE” whatever she was saying. Palin simply spewed all of the rehearsed comments out in the form of memorized brain-washing material. She spoke like a robot up there, c’mon.
    This is easy.
    I voted for Barack Obama yesterday via absentee ballot in a swing state.

    Comment by Daniel — October 3, 2008 @ 5:17 pm

  19. I from Illinois and voted for Obama, boy I regret it everyday. He is a joke to most of the people in Illinois (except Chicago). He knows nothing does nothing and people love him. They must think that he can save them from the bad oil companies. Sorry, he just talks and does nothing. All I hear from him is same B.S. which means that he is not going to do anything again. Great track record. I think Nov. 4 I’m voting present!!! Just like Obama does.

    Comment by Rep-alltheway — October 3, 2008 @ 5:40 pm

  20. Love this: “Folksy may go over well in Alaska, but it does not go over in the lower 48, and, frankly, will not go over well in the international arena. She is running for vice president of the United States, not president of the PTA.”

    You are SO right!

    Comment by Krystle — October 3, 2008 @ 5:45 pm

  21. I am shocked that anyone would say that Palin is “very knowledgable of all political views” when it was so obvious during the debate that she was simply regurgitating what had been fed to her by McCain’s posse. When scripted, she sounds plausible but get real – in the real world she is hopeless. Did anyone hear her condescending reference to “Joe Six-Pack”? She is so out of touch with “main street” America. And if I hear that phrase one more time, Palin won’t be the only one regurgitating.

    Comment by J. Buckner — October 3, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

  22. I scored the debate an A for Biden and a D for Palin (I was feeling charitable). Biden answered the questions and managed to tie McCain’s positions to those of W. He showed he’s intelligent and ready to be President right now.

    Palin answered her own questions and sounded like she was running for student council and not the second highest office in the land. If the debate was open format in which you can say whatever you wanted I’d raise Palin’s grade to a B-, however there were questions she was supposed to answer not just spit out the rote memorization she’d been working on over the last week. If this were a debate class in high school, she would have received an F for not answering the questions of the debate.

    Comment by David — October 3, 2008 @ 5:51 pm

  23. Palin had been fed and had memorized a bunch of talking points and statistics that she obviously didn’t understand. She can’t pronounce nuclear, yet she could have her finger on the nuclear button. She didn’t know the name of our commander in Afghanistan, but she disagreed with Biden about what he said. In short, Ms. Palin is not competent to be vice president, much less president.

    Comment by Roger Long — October 3, 2008 @ 5:52 pm

  24. Palin is one of the major reasons why both sides of our life-long Republican families will be voting for Obama. Palin’s clear lack of Political knowledge is wreckless and shows everytime she’s on camera, not to mention when combined with McCain’s war-mongering views you have a recipe for global disaster. Even being staunch ‘Republicans’ our family could tell it looked like she was simply repeating points that the campaign managers outlined for her, she even directly asked to change the subject so she could weasel those points in. It sealed the deal when she said that she may not give the answers that the moderator is looking for, that right there proved how severely unqualified she is to be a Vice President. Many other Republican families are jumping ship as well this year. Our sons aren’t going to die in one of McCain’s senseless wars just because he has personal grudges from over 30 years ago, no thank you.

    Comment by Robby — October 3, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

  25. The sad part about this debate is that your typical american, who pays no atention to politics, yet sees this woman’s personality on TV, WILL BE ENERGIZED! They will be energized to vote for the “hot mom”. They will be energized to vote for the “cool mom”. They will be energized to vote for the snazzy, down-home, folksy-type that Sarah Palin displays. The democrats will be beaten using the same strategy that G.W. used to take the white House in ’04. Democrats are in a lot of trouble. And if this woman takes office, Heaven help us all!

    Comment by South Florida "D" — October 3, 2008 @ 6:19 pm

  26. I feel so much better after reading all these responses. They way the “pundits” described Palin’s performance, I was saying “did they not see the same debate I saw?” My family was laughing out loud at some of her confusing, rambling answers, including the one where she totally mis-understood the question about describing her biggest weakness. God help us if that lady ever has to serve as VP through something like 9/11, where it was Dick Chaney in the situation room with the Generals trying to decide whether to shoot down commercial aircraft because Bush was still on his way back to Washington. How do you think the Generals would respond to “Well, I guess I’ll just have to get back to ya on that one (wink).”

    Comment by Bill — October 3, 2008 @ 6:21 pm

  27. I agree…Palin had no substance, was condesending, and I cannot stand that people honestly want this woman as their VP or President. I am saddened, as a woman, that other women see Palin substance. Maybe as a mother, friend, wife, ….but good god, the VP of the USA. Come on? She did horrible last night. Said nothing of substance. Joe Biden of cource has more experience but she could lighten up a little with the snide comments. She thinks we are stupid. As some people say, “She tried to “carry” him.” We caught on to your smart comments, Palin. What about the comment directed at Michelle Obama. “I am proud of my country,” Palin said. Come on…Say Something New!

    Comment by Melissa — October 3, 2008 @ 6:26 pm

  28. True, Palin did not fall flat on her face last night – but she was so well-rehearsed on every imagineable question that I can not help but wonder if she just has a very good memory. I myself have a photographic memory, which means that I can give very intelligent answers, word for word, as I have heard or read somewhere. However, I must admit that sometimes I have very little idea about what I am saying. I can not get it out of my head that her memory might be what got her through last night. I wish that it had been the kind of forum that allowed for more feedback to the questions given.
    JUST SAYING!

    Comment by Retrorosi — October 3, 2008 @ 6:35 pm

  29. Palin’s performance was an insult! Can the woman not enunciate the letter ‘g’ when the word ends with that letter? Is her vocabulary truly so limited that she has to resort to gosh-darn, golly-gee, aw heck? Folksy doesn’t cut it with me…and I have lived in rural, “folksy” places all my life. I don’t WANT my President or Vice President to be just like me or my neighbor; neither of us are qualified to run the country and yet we both are better able to speak like intelligent adults without batting our eyes and being coy, know the general in Afghanistan is McKiernan (not McClellan), know Mr. Biden is not O’Biden and are able to enunciate the letter g at the end of all words ending with that letter. While Mr. Biden was very fair and answer the questions intelligently, Ms. Palin avoided ever answering questions that she didn’t want to deal with and was VERY condescending; had Biden done the same, he would have been vilified. Just because this performance of Palin’s was somewhat better than the Couric interviews, it was still painful…and annoying…to watch. Sweetie, if you want to play with the big boys, you really need to qualify for the game and not expect any concessions.

    Comment by Vicki — October 3, 2008 @ 6:47 pm

  30. As a 40-something black female, it is exciting to watch this election unfolod with a black man and a female running for offrice. But hAving said that — you’ve got to be kidding with Sarah Palin. She is about asd qualified to be in the White House as our family pets! She is condescending, muchn too cutesy and flat ouy unqualified for the highest office in the land. Republicans, the phonetic pronunciation is ‘NOOK LEE ER’. Also, was it just me or was that insipid grin she had on her face all night irritating as all get out. I hope Americans are not in a Sarah Palin-esque Stepford Wife trance on election day. Keep Sarah (and McCain) around the salmon barrel and at the PTA in Alaska where she belongs.

    Comment by Ramona — October 3, 2008 @ 6:58 pm

  31. As I watched the debate last night, I thought to myself what a joke..Sarah Pain(Palin). She did not answer the questions posed to her and the answers she gave positively had no substance. Senator Biden did an excellent job and I am more knowledgeable about the role of the VP now because of his intelligent answers.

    Comment by JRosy — October 3, 2008 @ 9:52 pm

  32. As another black woman from New York now residing in Florida I have also been watching this election unfold and after doing some homework on my own regarding Sarah Palin I am curious why anyone with some common sense would want a person that has done as following: be in connection of the Alaskan Independence Party, vote for rape victims to pay for their own forensic evidence, oppose abortion even if the baby is a result of rape AND even if the baby is a result of a raped minor, consider censorship on library books, offered money for animals parts, uses state funding for aerial hunting, have a big hand in building a road that leads to nowhere and slash funding for teenage mothers that is in need of help. Keeping all this in mind and then hearing her speak makes me think that McCain is a lot older in his mind then his age. No she did not answer the questions asked unless it had to do with oil but I guess the oil will be free for Americans who can’t afford food, healthcare or their homes. No she is not like an average everyday mother, wife, daughter or American because most Americans choose to think on their owns and stick to their opinions. No she didn’t win the debate, McCain didn’t win his debate either and the same thoughts he had was fed to her on her little cheat sheet cards that she continued to scan through the debate. Yes she is an actor and not a very good one because she comes off as an unrealistic, unknowledgeable, uncommitted and undeniable robot that will say anything to keep the focus off the fact that she is not prepared to be the vice president, the president or anywhere near the white house. Considering that her running “Maverick” believes in abstinence, why would he choose someone that can not govern her own family. They both will put America on that road to nowhere. What was he thinking?

    Comment by Jewel — October 3, 2008 @ 10:39 pm

  33. To “Rep-alltheway”, I am from downstate Illinois and I, along with many others, do not hold your opinions of Senator Obama, so please do not speak on behalf of the majority of the residents of Illinois. It would seems that if the Chicago area is happy with Senator Obama, then he must be doing his job, seeing how that is the District that he represented. Perhaps you should research who your Senator is and contact that office. Sarah Palin is one of the most UNINFORMED Americans I have heard speak on any of the serious issues facing our country. If this is how John McCain puts COUNTRY FIRST then I say, “Thanks but no thanks” to the McCain/Palin ticket.

    Comment by Kristal — October 4, 2008 @ 11:36 am

  34. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I really thought I was in the twilight zone as I flipped through the channels to hear so many praise this lady. Yes, she did better than she did in her interviews, but she is an embarressment to me. Who in their right mind would vote for a V.P. who talks “folksy”? This lady is trying to represent our great country!!!! Why are so many lowering the bar for her. I am a teacher and it reminds me of what has happened in our educational system. We have lowered the bar and now many that receive “A”s do not measure up and go to college ill prepared. Sarah Palin does not measure up and should not represent our country!

    Comment by wanda — October 4, 2008 @ 8:34 pm


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